What type of service do my lockers need?

General Information

Phoenix Systems, Inc. can provide a number of locker related services:

 (1)  We have the largest supply of replacement parts at our disposal in the industry. In addition, we can give you more technical support than anyone else in today's market. We have research material and sample parts dating as far back as 1900.

 (2)  Because of our many years installing and removing lockers and because of the unique latching mechanisms that we manufacture that actually replace existing mechanisms, we have a substantial inventory of used locker parts.

 (3)  We manufacture a number of replacement latching mechanisms that can be used on almost any locker. The LockerSaverÒ series consists of three unique, recessed locking mechanisms:

 LockerSaverâ 100 is a replacement locking mechanism that is used in cases when the original multiple latching mechanism is too worn to be repaired. This handle uses a padlock to secure it.

 LockerSaverâ 200 is basically the same as LockerSaverâ 100 except that it uses a built-in combination lock to secure it.

 LockerSaverâ 300 is used in lockers that have been properly maintained and have a totally functioning locking mechanism. LockerSaverâ 300 provides a lift latch that is secured to the original lock bar. This unit allows the modern appearance of a recessed handle as well as added security and low maintenance.

 Basic Locker Repair is a service that can be provided on most lockers if their existing locking mechanisms are maintainable.

 (5)  Electrostatic Refinishing is used to upgrade the appearance of a locker area.

 (6)  Self-Directed Repair is specifically used to upgrade a locker area at the owner's discretion. Your client may not want to service all his lockers or he may just want to replace the damaged handles, this service gives him the flexibility and control over his locker repair project.

 (7)  We offer Repair Seminars to larger school districts or facilities that have their own maintenance staff.

Traditionally, the larger locker refurbishing companies have sought after the very large school districts requiring extensive locker repair. These projects were usually so large that they would have to go out for bid. This gave the school district the opportunity to pay the least amount possible for the service that they required. But as you know, paying the least amount usually means sacrificing quality. It also means that all the footwork done by the representative hinges on the bid opening. This can be a lucrative arrangement only if you hit on the majority of your bids.

 After years of providing that type of service, we have found that we can best serve our customers and our representatives by giving them exactly what they need when they need it and not waiting for an enormous project to come up some where down the road.  Specifically, we are looking for projects that range in value from $2,500 to $25,000, either in the public or private sector. This is a great advantage and selling point to the client. Firstly, he gets exactly what he expects and not the interpretation of the low bidder. The project is small enough that the work can be done without disrupting normal activity and the client has control over which areas are being done when. Remember that when projects are large, they need the approval of the board, but when they are smaller, funds can be taken from unused oil allotments or from some other project that ran below budget.

 Another important selling point is that if we do the facility in stages, the client has the opportunity to see how this particular refurbishing system works for him. Unlike a bid situation that encompasses the entire facility, the client is stuck with that particular system forever.

All projects are performed on a first come first serve basis.  The price structure is based on doing each project as it is entered. We will not reserve special holidays for projects unless arrangements have been made prior to accepting the order. Usually, a premium must be paid for this service.

 During the school year, work will be performed during the evening hours if required so as not to interfere with class schedules. This is generally the case for corridor lockers.  Locker room lockers, however, can be worked on during school hours if the students forgo using the rooms for a few days.

 Our work day is normally 12 hours. If custodians are not available to work in the building during that time, other arrangements must be made. We will not be responsible for paying custodians or other maintenance personnel to stay later than normal working hours. This should be taken into consideration prior to accepting the contract. If the administration will not permit their employees to work beyond their normal time, they must allow us to work during the regular school day.

 Do not accept a project with the idea that we will be able to squeeze it in since we are close geographically. Our schedules are developed carefully and accurately; it only makes a client angry when you do not show up when you are scheduled to.

SPECIFICATIONS/EVALUATION

 There are three basic variables or concepts surrounding on-site evaluation:

 1-   Determine what the facility needs in the way of numbers of actual lockers in use. Determine if the service required is for an aesthetic improvement or a functional improvement.

 2-   Determine what the facility has. It may very well be that the facility wants a Basic Locker Repair but that the lockers' age dictates that the latching mechanisms must be replaced with an alternate mechanism.

 3-   Develop a program outlining priorities. Not always can a facility afford to do all the work required at one time.  Priorities must be set with the idea that the entire project will be completed eventually.

 Basic locker repair is a service that should be performed on lockers that are no more than 20 years old. In addition, the manufacturer should still be in the business of manufacturing lockers. There are some exceptions to the rule. The following is a partial list of companies and styles that we take exception to. For a more complete list of peculiarities, it is necessary to check the parts catalog area of this kit for each manufacturer and style.

 1) We will not perform BLR on Interior Steel prior to 1970.

 2) We will perform BLR on all lockers made by Republic Steel from December 1936 on.  The only exception to this is when the lockers have been using built-in combination locks or the door jambs are excessively worn.

 3) We will not perform BLR on any lockers manufactured by Medart prior to 1972. Please note that the unit prices for BLR on box lockers is based on a one-point locking mechanism.  If your facility has Medart box lockers with lock bars and standard handles with a 2-point latch, you must double the unit price.

 4) We will not perform BLR to any angle frame lockers, regardless of manufacturer.

 5) We will not perform BLR on any lockers manufactured by Penco or Penn Metal prior to 1967 which have used a built-in combination lock.

Basic Locker Repair Specifications: 

 There are a few exceptions to the specifications that although it is not necessary to explain in every case, it is important that you understand.

When replacing the single prong hooks, this only refers to the hooks that are accessible. If a hook is missing from the rear wall of a locker that is installed against a wall, it would be impossible to install a hook on that wall. Likewise, if the lockers are installed in a recess, it is impossible to install a hook on the far outside side walls.

 The same applies to the installation of nuts and bolts. If both sides of the hole are not accessible, it will be impossible to replace missing nuts and bolts.

 Double prong hooks that are normally installed on the bottom of a hat shelf are totally omitted from the specifications.  Not only is it costly to replace them, but they are the cause of much damage to these shelves since the tendency is to twist and pull on them. Double prong hooks can be replaced if the client insists, for an additional charge.

 When re-anchoring trim or fillers, we assume that there are fillers and trim to re-anchor. Nowhere in the specifications does it mention to replace missing or damaged trim. This, of course, is an extra and quantities must be accurately taken.

 Interior parts, doors, door & frame assemblies and handles which are missing or damaged beyond repair are replaced. But notice in the specifications that only labor is included, the actual parts are extra. This position is taken for a number of reasons. Firstly, since the Representative is unable to open every single locker to see if the shelves are in tact, it would be foolish to include them in the repair price.  Also, some administrators are only interested in functional while other administrators are more interested in aesthetics.

A small dent in a door is not important to an administrator that emphasizes functional while it would be extremely important to one that emphasizes aesthetics. That is why it is imperative that a survey be done with the administrator who will responsible for accepting the project so that you can explain this concept to him. Make him understand that the facility must pay for every door that it buys and if this administrator wants to replace an item because of a dent that he should spell it out.

 Electrostatic Refinishing I (ER-I) calls for refinishing all exterior surfaces. This service is generally used in corridor areas where there is little damage or rust to the interiors of the lockers. It can also be used in a locker room area where the humidity level is very low and there is little rust or damage on the inside of the lockers.

 Electrostatic Refinishing  Specifications:

 Electrostatic Refinishing II (ER-II) calls for the refinishing of all exterior surfaces and the backs of the doors. This service is used in corridor areas when the administration does not care to look down the hall when the lockers are in use and see different colors on the inside and outside of the lockers. ER-II is purely an aesthetic prerogative.

 Electrostatic Refinishing III (ER-III) calls for refinishing all exterior as well as interior surfaces. This service is generally used in locker room areas that have experienced a great deal of abuse over the years. ER-III can also be used in corridor areas when the insides of the lockers have deteriorated. Please note, however, the tendency of today's student is to decorate the interior of their lockers with all sorts of decals and stickers. Many of them even go so far as to apply contact paper to the entire interior surface of the lockers. We do not include any sticker or decal removal in our pricing structure as we feel that this is a normal cleaning procedure for the facilities' maintenance staff. If the project you are inspecting has an excessive amount of paraphernalia on the interiors of the lockers, you must ask that the facility maintenance staff remove the stickers prior to commencing the work or an adjustment must be made in the painting price structure.

 It must be understood that Electrostatic Refinishing is a service unto itself and it cannot be confused with Basic Locker Repair.  No repair of any kind is included in any of the ER systems.

 If a facility is in need of even minor repair, it must understand that the repair work must be done by it's own staff prior to commencement of the project or it must accept the additional cost of Basic Locker Repair.

 Another important note to make concerns lockers that have already been refinished either by another company or the facilities own maintenance staff. Our pricing structure allows for additional work that must be performed on recoated surfaces.  However, your Field Representative must check to see if the surface is hard and make sure that it adheres properly.

We cannot refinish lockers that have a peeling coating. In addition, we are limited as to the amount of sanding that we will do in order to smooth a surface that was applied by brush or roller. If the evidence of brush or roller marks on the finished product are the concern of the administration, then we can only recommend that the fronts be removed and sand blasted. This is an expensive proposition. The average cost is somewhere around $45 per frame since the frames must be removed from the site, blasted, and then reinstalled.  We discourage using sand blasting as a recommendation.

 Another point that must be stressed to your client when ER-III is desired, the interiors of all the lockers must be totally cleaned out. Since washing is included in our specifications, the tendency is to leave the lockers full of debris and dust. The washing process is only to remove grease and wax and has nothing to do with the normal annual clean-up of the lockers.

 The coating which is specified in the ER services is a durable enamel. Facilities can have an even more durable finish if desired. On certain projects and for a premium, we will use Pitthane by Pittsburgh Paints. This is a graffiti resistant, two part, poly-urethane. This compound can only be used on surfaces that have never been refinished. Consult your price list for further information.

LockerSaver® Replacement Handles

The LockerSaverâ 100 handle is used to replace old, worn out locking devices. Usually, the original parts are so worn that they cannot be replaced or the manufacturer has long since gone out of business and the parts are no longer obtainable.

 The LockerSaverâ 100 handle is also used where vandalism and theft are very serious problems. As a service, The LockerSaverâ 100 handle can be furnished alone or in combination with any number of services. For example, if your lockers are basically in good shape but you have a minor security problem combined with a graffiti problem, you may only want to combine the LockerSaverâ 100 handle with Electrostatic Refinishing I. The LockerSaverâ 100 handle uses a padlock to secure it.

Specifications:

 The LockerSaverÒ 200 handle is used to replace old, worn out locking devices. Usually, the original parts are so worn that they cannot be replaced or the manufacturer has long since gone out of business and the parts are no longer obtainable.

 The LockerSaverÒ 200 handle is also used where vandalism and theft are very serious problems. As a service, The LockerSaverÒ 200 handle can be furnished alone or in combination with any number of services. For example, if your lockers are basically in good shape but you have a minor security problem combined with a graffiti problem, you may only want to combine the LockerSaverÒ 200 handle with Electrostatic Refinishing-I.  The LockerSaverÒ 200 handle uses a built-in combination lock or a key lock  to secure it.

 Specifications:

 The LockerSaverÒ 300 handle is used when the original locking mechanisms are functional and have been maintained over the years. It is primarily used when the client wants to increase security while giving the lockers a new, modern appearance.  Another time when this handle should be recommended is when the lockers are to be refinished and the users secure there lockers with padlocks. This is evident from the marks and scratches that are visible under and around the existing protruding handle.

 The LockerSaverÒ 300 handle will eliminate these marks and scratches since the padlock will be placed inside the metal cup and it will not be able to rub the refinished surface of the locker.

 Specifications:   

 LockerSaverÒ handles have many advantages including: increased security, low maintenance, modern appearance, and recessed.   There are a few situations when you should not recommend this product.

 LockerSaverÒ handles (100 & 200 only) should only be installed on doors which are 12" or less. Since this is only a one point latching mechanism, the wider the door the more fluctuation from the bottom or top.

 A LockerSaverÒ 200 handle can only use a Master built-in combination lock # 1670. If the lockers you are evaluating already have built-in combination locks, check to see if it is the right lock. Master #1630 (the most commonly used built-in combination lock) cannot be used with LockerSaverÒ 200.

 Note that in a few styles, the LockerSaverÒ handles may not cover all of the original handle notches in the existing door.

 The LockerSaverâ 300 handle can only be used if the existing locking mechanism is in excellent working order. Do not recommend this service if these mechanisms are even slightly worn.

 Self-Directed Locker Repair

Self Directed Locker Repair is a service that the client can control completely. He dictates exactly what is to be done on each locker by providing a thorough list. The client can provide the replacement parts or purchase these parts for the Distributor. For this service there is an hourly rate, depending on location.

Please note that the client must commit to a minimum of five (5) working days. In addition, none of the normal preventative maintenance work that is normally performed with Basic Locker Repair will be done unless specifically detailed on the list provided.

 This service is excellent for a facility that is not necessarily concerned about the preventative maintenance aspect and is only interested in some minor repairs.  Comparatively speaking, if the client wants to create a service similar to Basic Locker Repair by using Self Directed Locker Repair, he should be discouraged since the overall cost would be exceptionally higher.

 Locker Categories       

The following is a breakdown by class of most locker manufacturers.  Use this grouping to determine pricing for Basic Locker Repair.

 Class A:

 Interior Steel - 30106 handle w/ 30202 latch assembly only.  All box lockers installed after 1956.

 List Industries (Superior) - all current KD models.

 Lyon Metal - 41123, 41124, 41101 or 41120 handles.  All box lockers w/ 41531 jambs.

 Medart - 51104, 51101 or 51102 handles.  All box lockers installed after 1962.

 Penco - 61100 handle installed 1972 - current only.  All box lockers.

 Republic - 71103 or 71104 handles w/ 70310 jamb & 70201 latch spring only.  All box lockers installed after 1970.

 Above manufacturers current recessed handles or "quiet" type handles also included in this class.

Class B:

 Interior Steel - 30106 handle w/ 30302 jamb and 30201 latch finger.

 Lyon Metal - 41104 handle.

 Penco - 61101 handle.  61112 handle installed from 1967 thru 1972.

 Republic Steel - 70103 handle w/ 70300 jamb.  70105, 70106, 70100, 70101 and 70102 handles.  Box lockers prior to 1970 using center pull 70531 & 70532.

Class C:

 All Steel - all models.

 Art Metal (Jamestown) - all models.

 Art Metal (Chicago) - all models.

 Aurora Steel - all models.

 BFC - all models.

 Cline - all models.

 Durabuilt - all models.

 Durand - all models.

 Evans - all models.

 General Steel - all models.

 Interior Steel - all models not listed in Class A or B.

 Lyon Metal - all models not listed in Class A or B.

 Medart - all models not listed in Class A or B.

 Penco - all models not listed in Class A or B.

 Penn Metal - all models.

 Republic Steel - all models not listed in Class A or B.

 Supreme - all models.

 Tennsco - all models.

 Wilson - all models.

 Worley - all models.

Lockers manufactured in Canada .  Any locker originally manufactured in Canada of that is modeled after the Canadian one-point latch, is in Class B, only if the manufacturer is currently making that model.  All obsolete Canadian models fall into the Class C category.

 Welded lockers - All current welded locker units fall into Class B category only if the frames are in tact.  These manufacturers include DeBourgh, List and Art Metal.

 If you are not sure about classification, simply note the handle, jamb and latching mechanism and call the factory with that information.

On-site Refurbishing Price List

Basic Locker Repair

Class A

Class B

Add 25% to Class A

 Class C

Do not recommend Basic Locker Repair unless providing LockerSaver® Handles.

Electrostatic Refinishing

 ER-1

Up to 12" wide

ST              $          17.60

DT                          19.80

Box                         24.40

TPL/DPL                28.80

 For 15" wide add 10 %

For 18" wide add 20%

ER-2

Add 35% to ER-1 price

ER-3

Add 60% to ER-1 price

LockerSaverÒ Latching Mechanisms

B-L 100     $            48.00

B-L 200                   48.00

B-L 300                   32.00

LockerSaverÒ latching mechanisms are priced each regardless of locker style.  Prices do not include locks if required.

All other services are provided by frame and not by opening. 

 Prices are subject to change without notice.

Accessories

End Panels

SR 12"     $             88.00

SR 15"                    96.80

SR 18"                    106.50

DR 24"                   120.00

DR 30"                   132.00

DR 36"                   145.00

 Slope top overlay: up to 18" deep $ 19.80 / linear foot.

 Flat top overlay: up to 18" deep $ 15.40 / linear foot.

 For pricing on doors, door & frames, interior parts or other locker parts, consult the parts price section.  When using parts for any on-site service, always use the new pricing structure. Phoenix Systems Inc.  reserves the right to use refurbished parts without extending credit.

Discount Structure: quantity discounts are provided based on size of the project.  Please call for details.

This discount structure applies to on-site services and accessories related to those services.  It does not apply to catalog parts orders.  Parts that are supplied to be used in conjunction with on-site services such as doors, shelves or handles are net only and can be found in the parts section of our price list.

Prices and discounts are based on scheduling the project on a normal basis.  If special scheduling is required, please consult the factory.

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